Made me weep.....what is Britain doing in the EU and signing up to this criminal stupidity ??
I sent the links to all my contacts that I think will be as angry as me !!
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PS.....HFW Appears to be doing more in one programme than the AT has done in the year I have been on board..... maybe I am being harsh and impatient !! ![]()
my name is also added
bill
I added my name to this some time ago and after watching last nights program will continue to support it.
I take my hat off to those celebrities and politicians that get behind this in the hope that somehow enough pressure can be built up, that the other politicians have to listen.
I am sure I heard the minister say on last nights program that he would be at the front of any protest against discards, it would be interesting to see if he actually would.
I would like to hear the AT's views on this campaign.
Interesting that the trawler crews actually looked as angry about it as we are, maybe more because of the wasted earnings than wasted fish, but it seemed fairly genuine.
As someone said earlier there has to be a better way than discards, which is just a criminal waste of resources.
Not only are fish scarce but so is fossil fuel which the trawlers are burning as they trawl up non quota fish.
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I could only bring myself to watch the first 20 mins or so! (at least the common skate appeared to make it)
it makes me angry and upset
Can only echo what others have said- I'm glad it is getting high profile recognition and I would also like to see the ATs response to fishfight (I am not a member)
would it not be good if they quickly jump on the bandwagon as it gains momentum?
my name was on the petition some time ago
According to my emails Angling Trust is totally backing Hugh FW. Hugh provides the celebrity angle as well as the perfect media coverage for what we all know is a just and sensible cause. AT on its own could not hope to get the viewing figures of HFW. Incidentally a lot of the commercial boys interviewed were in favour of everything landed but a limit on days at sea. Could also be an idea to have a total tonnage quota rather than a species tonnage quota with discards being severely punished--would need some policing.
Petesnr
I think there lies the issue Peter - forced discards are one thing (EU quotas etc), but, a boat choosing to discard as they have found \ netted a more proffitable catch is another.
Rob
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews...ashionable.html
I like the look of his Cod mark though! ![]()
Dan
There are at least four reasons why commercial fishermen discard fish:
1. Fish are too small to be legally landed.
2. Fish for which there is no market.
3. Fish of a size and type for which there is a market but a vessel has no quota.
4. Fish for which a vessel has quota but chooses to discard small or low value (albeit legal) fish in favour of utilising its quota allowance to land larger fish which are worth more money. A practice referred to as 'high-grading'.
Tesco's didn't come out too well. They need to start stocking rod and line caught tuna. But I also note that Sainsburys also stock the Princes stuff and it is of course cheaper, but hopefully people will think twice before buying.
I think there lies the issue Peter - forced discards are one thing (EU quotas etc), but, a boat choosing to discard as they have found \ netted a more proffitable catch is another.
Rob
So much things have been said about discards, but what's the alternatives?
We can make the fisherman keep everything they catch and oncew they reach their quota tonnage, they stop fishing,
But the problems are
1) the fish they catch is low value, so they can't afford to be on the water
or
2) the fish they catch are of low value they have to raise these prices so that they can stay in business.
Either ways, it is going to push the fish prices up, will consumers pay these extra?
It was demonstrated when HFW did the chicken thingy and some people didn't/wouldn't pay the extra needed for those chicken to have a decent life, so will these people pay extra to save our fishstocK?
There are all sorts of technical measures that can affect size and species caught. Trawl speed is one thing--cameras show that if the net is towed more slowly then many cod just swim out of the net. Square rather than diamond shaped mesh allows the mesh to stay open so that more small fish escape. It was interesting on the first programme that the inshore netter said that they had used large meshed nets for years to fish cod in a sustainable way but once the quota is gone they now revert to smaller mesh for other species and end up catching more cod that have to be discarded!
The question of enforcement of no discards is a thorny one but in general if regulations are in place then a good proportion of operators will abide by the rules. there will always be some who break the rules but a few high profile prosecutions could help.
The question of profitability comes back to stock levels. If we have reached the stage where you need to have a boat costing millions of pounds and you have to travel 90 miles offshore to catch adequate fish--isnt this an indication that the stock is overfished? If stocks were good then fish like cod would be everywhere and the need for expensive giant fish destroyers wouldnt be there.
If all fisherman had to bring back all of their catch then they would adapt their methods to try to catch the most profitable species but markets for less well known species would also open up.
Petesnr
It's great to see tv chefs backing and promoting the issues highlighted in the End of the Line film.
Well done to channel 4
Tell the missus to check for rod and line caught tags on cans of Tuna - "every little helps" ![]()
PJ
How do you go about reporting a company for misleading advertising? If loads of ppl reported Tesco and Princes, they would have to change.
John
http://www.channel4.com/4food/the-big-fish-fight
there are quite a few shows on as part of the fish fight, gordon ramsay, jamie oliver and heston blumenthal all getting in on the act,
also some recipes on this page
go channel 4!
